posted Sat, 12/14/2019 - 20:49
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Hey guys, my name is Corey. I’m 25 years old and just started my first cycle of gear. I’m going to be running test e at 250 mg a week with 2 shots a week being 125 mg each shot. I’ve been lifting for about 3-4 hardcore with on point diet and training and have built a decent foundation.
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Corey
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AnonEdit out source names and websites.
Done, my bad
Too young kid
AnonYou're a monkey, what would you know about human physiology?
Don’t think so, just running a 3 month cycle of 250 then going to maintain. So not a big deal
AnonWhy 250/wk? You'll be shut down regardless,might as well follow the beginners protocol and do the 500. Provided everything you said is true, you will gain better and with a blood test, which is mandatory will help you dial in your ai need.
You need to have an AI on hand bro. Gyno/acne is a bitch...don't be naive. Even at 250 you may have a need for one. If you skimp on blood work and AI you're setting yourself up for failure in the future.
What's your pct plan? Gonna need that.
I’m not going to be dumb about this at 500 mg a week that’s definitely going to involve some nasty sides for a newbie, not to mention that’s a higher chance of me having to use an AI which is absolutely terrible for you btw.
Because dude why would I do 500 mg a week for a newbie cycle? I’ll make crazy gains off 250 mg a week plus less sides. I’m only doing it for 3 months then doing my pct then I’m good to go.
AnonNothing wrong with that if you're nervous about it. But I would highly recommend a blood draw at 5 weeks to see how your body reacts to exogenous testosterone. Some people aromatize like a motherfucker. Even at low/trt doses. 250 is definitely a cycle, but it's barely over trt doses. Playing it safe is smart, but the blood work is cheap also, and will help you gauge your next cycle, and prevent problems with E2 this cycle. You're being conservative with 50% of it, why not 100? An E2 test through most private labs is like $30 brother...you've got a solid build! Don't put titties on it. Heavy aromatizers can develop lumps on small doses, better to just spend the 30 and keep an AI on hand, that's what EVERYONE worth a fuck will tell you.
You definitely know what your talking about man, haha thank you because honestly I was going to wing it with no AI because I figured it was a low dose. I just mentioned my buddy who’s on gear and he’s going to sell me a pharmaceutical grade AI. The question is should I take it for symptoms only or at all times. I’ve literally heard both. The thing is I know they’re super bad for you so I only want to take it if I absolutely need it and feel like taking it during the whole cycle is a stupid idea.
AnonNo, do not just take it the whole cycle, low E2 can slow/stop gains actually.
What is the AI?
You're gonna need that blood work, going by feel doesn't work, you'll be caught up in your head trying it that way. Privatemedlabs.com ultalabs.com
You need the E2/estrodial test at the minimum. Preferably a full panel, and test/total and free, but it sounds like you're avoiding this question lol so if it's money that's the problem, 30$ is a small fee for valuable information for current/future cycles. Also your health...
The idea with an AI is to maintain stable levels of it in your system to maintain stable hormone levels. A few tests is necessary for that. I've done it and my E2 goes up to around 60 on 600mg/week. I do it every time, I buy the blood work before the cycle as the lab tests you print off are good for 5months where I go. I've got 3 separate lab tests ready and paid for in my desk right now lol
Ok well I already took a 125 mg shot on Thursday, so when is a good time to do an estrogen test around week 6? And how many times like how do you do it usually
AnonSo test enanthate/cypionate are almost the same time at around 4 weeks, but I'd wait till week 5 because everyone is different in how they process the ester attached to the testosterone and reach stable levels. So at week 5-6 if you can afford it get testosterone total and free values along with E2. It's estrodial, not total estrogen. This will show you the potentcy of your testosterone and how your estrogen levels reacted. Because testosterone aromatizes into E2 by way of the aromataze enzyme. Everyone is different.
So if you make an account with one of those private labs, or another one if you like, you can purchase over the internet an order for blood work. Make sure to check to see if the have a drawing location near you first lol... So after you buy the order, you print a piece of paper off and take it to the lab, they then draw your blood and post your results online which you can view in the profile you made. Since you've already started baseline values are not gonna work obviously, but if you do them at week 5, then if you decide you need the AI begin dosing that and go in for a second E2 test in another few weeks to see how you reacted. You may not have a problem with high levels, but only blood work will tell.. slightly elevated E2 isn't a problem in many, but severely elevated can trigger an increase in prolactin, which you don't want. That would be the trigger for breast tissue/lactation lol also high levels of either/both of those can cause sexual issues, anorgasmia, start/stop erection... among other things. 250mg a week won't cause serious problems in the majority of people I'd be willing to say.
Might want to brush up on post cycle therapy too, you haven't mentioned that at all. It's highly recommend to sort that out first, if you don't return your natural production in a decent time frame you will drop those gains, and have wasted 12 weeks. And all that test, food, and time. Also stressed your hpta. Your values theoretically can recover naturally, but it won't be quick enough to maintain those gains, and they may not reach the level you were at pre cycle. Having low test fucking blows donkey dick bro. I made many mistakes between 20-25 and now I'm paying for it. Luckily I probably only have like 50 more years of injections. So yeah. Basically nothing. Beats being a fat depressed moody piece of shit!
Sounds good bro thank you! Just wanted to do a nice beginner cycle and add some more lean mass and try to maintain after that nothing serious. I’m not messing with anything other than test man that stuffs not for me
Killin it. I gotta remember to + one of ur random posts.l since I can’t in here.
Way to take the time man.
And OP listen to these guys. Bloods. AI on hand and don’t be afraid to use it! (they’re not all bad for you... don’t be afraid of them if you need them... high e2 is MUCH worse for you then an AI. AI’s are only bad for you if you don’t need them... just make sure you need it)
AnonYeah I'm being helpful now..but only to those who deserve it. And he's put in time, so that's good in my book!