Test/Tren/ Winstrol Cutting Cycle Questions
So I have done 4 cycles. I’m 37 yrs old. Finished a Test/Tren/EQ Bulking cycle a couple months back. Great lean gains. Was eating 4-5K calories a day. I was around 220 when I finished my cycle but have dropped to about 215.
I am doctor prescribed TRT which is helping maintain for sure. I think the weight I lost is water and maybe some fat. I am on maintenance calories now. Strength really hasn’t dropped to much so feeling good about not looking gains.
Probably between 16-19% BF.
Here is my question. I have a bunch of the below:
- Test Cyp
- Tren E
- Injectable Winstrol
- Mega Test (50mg test A, 150mg test Unde, 250mg test E)
- D Bol
I was thinking starting on February 1st of doing the following cutting cycle. TAKING blood regularly and watching.
- 200mg test cyp twice a week
- 200mg tren E twice a week
- pin 50mg everyday of Winstrol
How does this sound? Should I tweak any MG’s? Should I do any of the mega test rather than cyp for cutting?
How long should I cycle. I typically cycle 12 weeks, but was thinking a shorter cycle. Any point in starting with Dbol for a couple weeks or totally defeat the point? I have am AI I keep on hand....
Thanks for any advice. Think I know the right cycle with what I have, just curious if I need to get anything else or tweak MGs
ONE MORE THING, having chest and back acne even from test. Any advice? Talk to doctor maybe>?
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josipgatesthis is why most of people should hire a coach before going on cylce...things are very simple: cut = calorie deficit and bulk= calorie suficit...yeah some drugs are more dry and some more wet but if your dies is shit and u dont know how to track your macros u can still get very fat on dry compounds like tren and mast...learn,educate yourself,don't risk your health if u dont know what are u doing
Short esters and diet no dbol
Rusty hit it out of the park below. It's all about food. Also, if your going to use test on a cut short esters are better because there will be less water retention. The Test blend you mentioned isn't great for a cut and really not good for only a 12 week cycle because of the test unde in it. That ester is easy too heavy to only blast for 12 weeks. If your going to do this use the test cyp and the blend for cruise/TRT.
I need to make it another month. So you like the test combo for the cruise until my cycle? Cypionate for cycle
RustyhookerI think youre making errors on gear choice. You can cut on simple test or test and var last 6 weeks. FOOD is cutting. FOOD is bulking. Cardio burns fat. Done
I wouldn't be taking DBOL on a cut cycle. And the Winny and Test together wreak havoc on connective tissue so you need to be cautious.
Listen too this man i totally stopped winny with test because more problems then its worth luckily some knowledgeable people on here told me to switch to masteron and thats what i plan on doing
Not to mention the injectable winstrol will hurt like MF. I have heard so many horror stories of injections and super bad PIP that I do not wanna try it
I knew that didn’t make a lot of sense, I just had it and thought maybe two weeks of bulking at the beginning. Just asking
Last thing you need is Tren if your 16-19% bf. You don’t take steroids to stop being fat. You get on a good diet plan and add in cardio.
Maybe I’m not that high, I probably need to get it officially checked
Post a picture as most test are not accurate. Save the Tren for another cycle and drop the weight with test and var, maybe winny at the end of your looking good
Where do I post a pic?
What kind of test would you run? Am I OK on the cypionate? I have all that Winnie, do you think I should just save it towards the end and use Anavar with test. Maybe 12 weeks
Test is test so don’t worry about what kind. Test and var is great cutting combo. Winny will garden you up IF your already lean. So wait a while to see where your Physique gets to. Really no use in adding it in right now.
AnonYou don't need all that to cut, just low dose test and MAYBE the winny, but that hurts like a bitch and you can't pin the same place twice for a while..it's also hell on your joints and shouldn't be ran longer than 6 weeks ish, you need to keep an eye on your liver values even with the injectable version.
Your goal here is to cut, so that means your shooting to maintain muscle mass. Adding wet compounds like dbol or large doses of test is working against your goals. They add bloat.. tren is fucking bad for almost everything inside of your body lol you don't need it to cut with, your bf is way high anyways so the only real advantage would be strength and a little more recomp effect. But you did that last time, this time almost 100% of your results will come from diet. Drop those calories obviously, like a lot. Don't run long esters shorter than 10 weeks, it's pointless in my opinion, they just got rolling at week 4-5! That test U is a stupid long ester and is useless in a 10-12 week cycle. Test ace is gone quick AF and the enanthate is 4-5 weeks for stable levels. Basically don't bother with that mega test blend for this cycle, they should have put Prop and phenyl prop in it with it having ace on it..the difference between ace and enanthate is like 4-5 weeks lol unless you bin it ED. Dumb mix.
Get bloods done to see where your E2 is at and if it's high or fluctuating too much that could be your acne cause, but honestly, test increases your sweat gland activity and that's usually it. Overactive sebaceous glands...I have a small amount on my arms / back year round unless I hit the tanning bed 2x week for the summer shirtless season lol but that's not healthy either.
It's not been very long since your last tren blast, you need to get a full panel done to make sure all your markers have returned to normal. It throws a lot of values out of balance, your 37, not competing, and have no need for something that harsh. A well planned cycle without it will give you amazingly similar results, because you're not below 9-10% bf. Tren shines for contest prep..it's overrated for the average lifter.
I think I covered everything..but it's early..
This is all great information.
They do you have a test with this combination.
Testosterone Acetate 80mg/ml
Trenbolone Acetate 80mg/ml
Drostanolone Propionate 80mg/ml
Should I do cypionate and Winnie or the above and Winnie?
I really Enjoyed the tren and it really didn’t cause me to many sides. Really lost a lot of body fat, and maybe I’m not that high because I really don’t have a ton of fat on me. I’m just trying to shred what’s left.
So if you think the trend for a shred is not a good idea, I’m all ears. But the body fat that I lost and it was amazing. And I was eating a very high calorie count is still lost body fat, it was a clean diet but I still lost a lot of body fat
I just realize this one has tren in it, maybe I do this and the Winnie
AnonHonestly you dont need all that, seriously test cyp with a caloric deficit paired with cardio and low rest periods in your lifting will hold your muscle mass very well while you drop weight. You'll lose weight just as fast without the tren if you drop your calories. That will save your body the hell that is tren..adding in anavar or winstrol at the end of the cycle will help, I'd recommend anavar over winny because of the side effect differences. Anavar is very well tolerated with most people and offers similar results.
One thing to remember is to not get carried away with adding in compounds. Don't rely on drugs for results, rely on diet. It will serve you better to establish that habit, that's what gets any results you are going for..bulk or cut. It's a marathon! Don't start the tren train if you don't need to, it's offers amazing results, but if you're covered in a layer of pudge it's not a great idea. Not that it ever is...get some blood work done, it's not very nice to you..
Test cyp/Winnie at the end. You're gonna see great results.
I’m good with it man. I can probably sell off the mega test. I really wanted to use the win just because I have it rather than ordering Anavar. I got the injectable Winnie because a buddy said the pills causing dick problems, but the injectable wasn’t supposed to be that bad. I thought when you were supposed to be a little better than Anavar.
I’ll either get rid of the tren or do it down the road.
I really just want to do a super shred and then do very light cycles down the road, I’m really happy with the results from the cycles thus far I just really wanted to cut.
AnonYeah that'll work great, run that winny at the last 6 weeks or as long as you can, it can be a bitch sometimes.. make sure to run a liver sup too, tudca is what I use. You'll crush it, and won't have to stuff your face!
Alphamale500Nice comment with good information bro!
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AnonGotta spread the love!