posted Mon, 04/22/2024 - 20:53
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+ 3 Lab results IGF-1 DELUXE C
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Not sure what to say. Using DELUXE C, My results show in range after using a 4 IUs, then increasing to 6 IUs before my lab test, finishing 7 vials. I was previously using 3IUs from a different source and switch to this source. I My appointment was at 9 AM, took my last shot at 6AM and fasted tIill my test. I do know that I am sleeping much better with this HGH and look much toner. Also using Anavar 75 mg a day and test CP 400 wk.
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Definitely not a robust IGF response! Of course there is a lot more to the HGH puzzle than IGF-1 floating in the serum though, so I’m glad you’re still noticing results, sleeping better etc
Anavar isn’t known to be super stressful on the liver, I’m skeptical that it’s playing a big role here, but you never know. (Although 75mg is no small dose) My intuition tells me you’re just genetically on the low end of the bell curve IGF wise, although without bloods it’s tough to say.
On SST someone just posted a 700 ng IGF score on 7 IU of supreme, which is an example of an extremely robust response that 99% of people wouldn’t see.
In any case, thanks for posting! -- Keep us in the loop with what kind of results you see as time progresses aswell!
P.S. What was the duration of use before testing?
He’s also 50 years old, so probably has very little natural production, a baseline would’ve been nice but like @23Sparta said, I’m not so sure the igf-1 test is really the full story. To be honest, after seeing so many tests at different ends of the spectrum from the same sources, idk if the numbers mean much at all really. Also me and scoob had been talking about this and the liver definitely can tank your igf-1 levels. And that’s not really documented too well, at least not that I could find, so who knows what else can be contributing to those numbers
Yep just saw the age as well! Not that you cant have a robust IGF-1 response at that age, but it certainly plays a factor.
We've been getting a lot more labs in since we increased the store credit and the data has been super insightful! I think I can say pretty confidently that there's no good rule of thumb for dosage correlating to IGF-1 in serum, it seems to vary so much person to person.
Our goal is to at some point have the largest archive of IGF bloodwork out of any source, we added a section to the website for it, at the bottom of https://kits4less.com/quality-control
The next stop will be checking my liver and see how it's doing, maybe that will provide some answers. Thanks bro
Agreed bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7cu6Dty8YI
About an hour and nineteen minutes into the video Steve comments on Chases IGF-1 of 239. They both admit to having never seen a high IGF-1 score on their bloods. They both blow 1st world pharma grade, Chase to the moon. They both are monsters in their own right. Steve’s one of the sharpest PED gurus we have and Chase isn’t dumb. Neither one is concerned. There is still much to learn and real world results are what matter.
Great video, and very informative. Do you mind sharing the test-only cycle video that Rosschestzip mentioned below?
Thanks bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wyAjJ2am0M
Did you ever watch any of the podcast with Steve, Derek, and Leo? They were phenomenal. Steve and Derek are Ped EXPERTS, I’d say the most knowledgable in the world, if not the most then definitely in the top ten. And Leo was extremely knowledgable in a lot of other functions in the body, and other chemical enhancements. The three of them together was really something special and unfortunately can’t be recreated ever again. I don’t know this chase guy you always mention but if he’s anything like Steve then I’m sure he’s worth checking out
Chase Irons isn’t on Steve’s or Derick’s level at all. What he is… Open and honest about his cycles and posts his bloods. The link I posted was when he did a long growth phase with test, and swapping mast and primo. His bloods weren’t that bad, but not as good as Steve’s test only cycle with aromasin.
Oh shit that reminds me I gotta finish that Steve video about the test cycle you sent me. I got half way they last night and passed out lol
lol, yeah, that one changed my cycle design philosophy for sure
Thank you for the link bro.
Yes sir np. I’ve had more than my fair share of poor IGF-1 scores. I’ve tested various products, under various protocols, dosages and conditions. I’ve even tested IGF-BP3 and was actually low, out of range. So the mystery continues, but that moment in that video put some things into perspective for me
I have been taking HGH from another source for about a year before testing. Was taking 3IUs a day-divided morning and night
Just wondering what the mirror is telling you. Abouth running gh
I think I look fucking good, healthy skin, a slimmer waist, my nails grow way too fast, sleeping better with this source's HGH. however, I have not gotten any tingling on my fingers from this HGH. I reduced my dosage to 5IUs after the lab test.
Thats great Mirror will show the results.
Im glad to hear it. Goodluck bud
Truth, people often overlook the fact that there are many benefits to running growth aside from elevated IGF-1. I’m one of those poor responders on paper, but that did not translate info poor results in real life
There's another guy who who had a low score and it was possibly due to high liver values. He started taking a liver supplement and retested. His score was much better. Anavar can stress your liver.
I will make some changes and see what happens.
thank you
Here's the labs from the member I was referring to. https://www.eroids.com/pics/kits4less-igf-1-score https://www.eroids.com/pics/kits4less-round-2
Thanks for the links. I will have to make some changes and do some more labs. I will probably be doing labs for my liver to see how it’s doing even though I’ve been taking the rec Supplements
That guy was using a different liver supplement than he normally used and it wasn't working well.
At 75mg a day is more of an "is" then "can". Var is only a freebie on health at super low dose. Take the Scooby's advice, either discontinue the var or take some liver supps, prolly will increase your score a bit.
I have been taking liver supplements every day, TUDCA, Milk T., and NAC as well as glutathione injections 200mg.
Smart man, I use all except the glutathione. Var still jacks my lipids anything over 20mg a day.
Is it that bad? Lol
Depends how you look at it lol
Woah... Did you have labs from a prior date showing your bodily response to GH?
No, This is the first time doing labs for IGF.
At least you l know now. I got my bloods done last week and will share results as soon as I get them.