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STATS, DESCRIPTION, GOALS

Currently 198lbs pretty sure I'm sitting at 15% bf but I need calipers don't trust my scale. I've got 6 weeks left of cutting so the pics below are right now, will post update posts as I go. Bloodwork will be done pre, mid, and post pct. Last post bugged out due to size issue so I will post the main compounds and explain others here as small as possible. Goal is to put on size and build new muscle cells in lacking areas(arms you will see below). I have caber on hand as well as aromasin and will use IF NEEDED. Sdrol will be split a.m. and preworkout except at 10mg then just preworkout. I'll be a few weeks in on hgh so cycle start I'll be at 5i.u day and end I should be at 8iu a day. PCT starts 4 days after last pin of prop.PCT will be clomid 100/100/50/50mg daily and Nolvadex 40/40/20/20. igf will be post workout in biceps and shoulders. Hgh will be when I wake up and pre workout late afternoon.
Any questions ask awayyy. Yes I look soft, got 6 weeks to cut though and lower my pot consumption(medical consumption) and I'm retaining water a little from the hgh too I think.

Week/ProductTest eTest pDecaSdrolIgfProvi
1400mg150mg400mg
2400mg150mg400mg10mg/d
3400mg150mg400mg20mg/d25mg/d
4400mg75mg400mg20mg/d25mg/d
5500mg400mg25mg/d
6500mg400mg20mcg50mg/d
7500mg400mg40mcg50mg/day
8500mg400mg40mcg50mg/d
9500mg400mg50mg/d
10500mg400mg10mg/d50mg/d
11500mg400mg20mg/d50mg/d
12500mg400mg20mg/d50mg/d
13225mg20mcg25mg/d
14150mg40mcg25mg/d
1575mg40mcg25mg/d
PRE CYCLE PIC: 
Gettinit's picture

I would definitely go the NPP route myself just sayin your looking at 4-6 weeks before your Deca really takes a good hold and then at 400 mg i would have Caber on hand for prolactin issues if they crop up. Are you going to being running labs during the process?

bundlz's picture

why do you make it so complicated with test e test p just take susta and deca btw you have the same bf like drexyl no hate

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23Sparta's picture

You already know I’m not a fan of the sdrol in that stack. It is a cosmetic/strength compound whose benefits will be long in the wind after you PCT. For that, you will compromise your body’s ability to process food and likely affect your ability to eat. You don’t need a bunch of steroids to bulk, you need proper nutrition, proper rest and proper training. High dosage cycles are best reserved for when in caloric deficit, in order to maintain strength and preserve tissue.

Your argument that your uncle and dad are running the same cycle, does not make sense. Nick Walker is running seven grams of test right now and liking it, does not mean that I need to. You are not your uncle or dad, you are you and should do what is appropriate for your fitness and experience level. Also, you said that your stack even has additional compounds that there's does not. Why is that necessary? Are further along than they are?

Your cycle experience and fitness level does not warrant this. You said yourself that you have one test cycle, one quasi test cycle, and a var only cycle under your belt. So the next step, at most, is test with an additional compound. Not three additional compounds and a peptide that is not without risk. I run LR3 with only a maintenance dose of growth. Reason being, I do not want too much IGF-1 left floating around in my system potentially attaching itself to unwanted tissues. Have you considered this?

Running just test and deca alone for the first time is challenging enough, figuring out what ratio works best for you.

This cycle is not going to do what you think it’s going to do, and whatever it does, could have been done with just test alone and some growth.

I say all of this with love and respect brother. I just want to see you get to where you want to be safely

V0411's picture

Well maybey I'll drop the sdrol for a bit, maybey send it to my dad for some cash. But I still want to run test deca and provi or even npp prop and provi. I got the igf mainly to spot Inject Into the arms post workout for new muscle cell growth. Last time I was seriously jacked everything was big except my arms, they were shredded but tiny compared to the rest of my body and still are. It's genetics Im that part. And not trying to gloat in anyway shape or form but don't let the picture deceive you, my fitness level is not a question, I'm a martial artist and used to cage fight just practice now, you hit my stomach and you'll feel the strong core for sure. I workout everyday just haven't had the diet focused lately.

NWApatches's picture

I don't believe you need to spot inject your biceps to make them grow. But I've never done it so that's why I'm saying it. Hit weights hard man. Crush your food. The body resembles the mind. GET HARD, STAY HARD. let's go

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23Sparta's picture

Definitely, we all have genetic strengths and weaknesses. Getting your arms to catch up is going to be more about training and nutrition than anything else. You’re gong to have to play around with volume, intensity and frequency to find what works best for you. My shoulders were a weakness and now they are a strength. What worked for me was focusing on upper chest and medial delts on push day, rear delts on pull day, and also having a shoulder only day. You could try the same thing. Train tri with chest, bi with back and still have an arm day.

I've only spot injected another form of IGF-1. I do plan on my next LR3 run to bilateral IM half my dose preworkout and the rest sub q post. Your LR3 dose isn’t crazy or anything. I was just giving you something to consider.

Wise decision to drop the Sdrol. I promise by doing so you aren’t losing anything and only gaining.

Drexyl's picture

My friend, I just took a couple pics of myself, I did it to post some comparison. I’m reasonably at 16-18%, it’s bad enough to make me not post it. No hurt feelings, but you’re no where near 15% and you have no business running drugs at this point.

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V0411's picture

I have 6 weeks, I'll get there man

Drexyl's picture

I’m only doing this because I care…

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V0411's picture

I completely understand brother, I just hope you understand I'm not starting this cycle till I'm 12% or lower bf

pingree24's picture

That's not 15% bf that's over 20% you would be having some visible abs at 15%

Look bulky though bro good job

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CHIMAIRA75's picture

With the amount of bf and water you are retaining, are you sure you want to go with deca on this bulk? My personal opinion would be to go the NPP route. Sure, it's alot more pinning, but same hormone with a massive decrease in water retention. You'll still get the same nandrolone effects. Probably drop bf while gaining lean tissue as well. I know I do.
With that being said, I'd swap out the enanthate ester and run prop with it throughout. Again, less water retention, same effects. Even the superdrol, I'd swap that out for Drol and pulse it in 2 week intervals. Maybe even kick start it with some Ment Ace.
Again, these are just my opinions. We all have them, we all have our preferences. I just think that if you are trying to lean out and gain quality tissue, the shorter esters are the way to go. +1 for posting pics and laying out your cycle. Takes balls to throw yourself out there and subject yourself to potential criticism, as we know some of these guys can be harsh. Yet, it's all with your best interest at heart. Good luck on the bulk! Push hard, eat clean and often and it will happen. Get it in brother!

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MFS4788's picture

Hey man just a question with some gear i feel you could help me out with.. i havnt done this in 10 yrs so i fprget everything..
Ive been doing alot a lot of cardio and lifting and am ready for a booster.. except i dont know what half the shit is on titan.. i want to say i did just test and sus last time and it worked great.. what im looking for is some help shredding the pounds.. not retain water and build my muscle like i use to be.. could you point me in the right direction of stuff from titan. Oral or injectable.. rather oral but will do injectable too..
And how much and how often to take and when to take the estrogen blocker and how much?
My last estro block was a pyramid punchout pack i started halfway through cycle i think.. but not sure how much to take the way it comes from titan

Goodstud's picture

Pretty sure your not supposed to mention sources in open forum.

CHIMAIRA75's picture

He's aware. He didn't know as he's new.

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Goodstud's picture

Just letting him know and didnt want to be the dick who negs a new guy for not knowing all the rules.

CHIMAIRA75's picture

Pm'd you

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V0411's picture

I may look into the npp prop route but I do want to try the superdrol still

CHIMAIRA75's picture

And that's fine since it won't cause any water retention. I just prefer the Drol myself. But if you retain alot of water, Deca is only gonna make it worse.

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V0411's picture

Won't the provi help with that

CHIMAIRA75's picture

It will definitely help with it and help as an AI, but why even bother when you can get the same benefits, minus the water retention by going with the NPP? IDK? That's just my take on it. I'm not a fan of having to take a drug to counteract a drug.

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V0411's picture

I was thinking king of npp

NWApatches's picture

Bro I don't think you need half the gear your planning here. A little test, the right food, and fucking heavy weights with repetitions. It is the only way

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V0411's picture

I've ran test twice before, once with what I'm pretty sure was fake or highly underdosed deca and ince on its own, also have done a anavar only cycle. My uncle and my dad are running this exact cycle minus the hgh,igf,and provi and they love it so I figured I'd give it a shot, plus it will be my last cycle for a while, just plan on getting married and September then maybey having a kid. Diet and everything will be on point for the bulk though

NWApatches's picture

Heavy fucking weights will bring you the treasures you seek

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Goodstud's picture

You don't need heavy weights to get bigger. Diet and proper training can do that. Now if you want to be a powerlifter then you need heavy weights.

NWApatches's picture

Well it works for me and everyone I personally know. Larry wheels looks pretty good.

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press1's picture

Is there some reason why you are going around being difficult with everybody?

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anvil's picture

First off as my buddy 23Sparta stated +1 for posting pics and thinking out your cycle. My question is why 12 weeks of full power, why not go longer then do the 3 weeks of the prop. It is not that your soft, but your body fat is higher than 15%, I only say that because I am 14% the difference is not 1%. Be careful when bulking at over 15%, just want to keep you healthy as I am far from perfect myself.

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V0411's picture

I do have 6 weeks to cut first and with the diet and training I have planned getting below 15% shouldn't be a problem, lowest I've ever been was 10%. The prop is a taper of course but with what I'm running 12 weeks seems like enough

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