Never said there were bodies droppin gothic. One thing about roids is everyone has a different experience on them. Im young 19 years old, A lot of people would call that abuse itself. Personally I dont think so and I dont give a FUCK (GET BIG) but besides the point. I categorize abuse as like Bodiez said jumpin into something at a ridiculous dose with a) little experience, or b) no clue about the substances you are taking. An example is I know a guy, good build, huge etc, PRO Card endorsed Bodybuilder. He sometimes takes Dbol 50mg and up, and abombs 50mg and up at the same time, plus test, etc. His blood pressure has gotten up to 200 (emergency visit is recommended at like 160-170 I believe) To him it is worth it, after all its his job and passion. But you cannot tell me even he cannot tell me it is not a risk and an abuse of these substances. And if pros do this, imagine all the fuckers that take these products without any research, they could, COULD be inducing some health problems down the road. Steroids do not kill people I will never say that. But they are know to increase chances of cancer, organ failure, heart disease, prostate problems, etc. Props to your dosing and cycles tho, My body cannot handle those dosages haha. if only they could..... maybe I would be a future pro haha

i think abuse is simple bro, when some one jumps in without informing himself and doesnt know what he's doing and begins mixing things that can cause serious injury to health or dangerous side effects that would be abuse in my eyes. i agree that their are no bodies droppin like they are from cocain, heroin, even alcohal but i am sure there are people out there that have harmed themselves because of misuse, likely due to lack of knowledge. eg. T-4, im reasearching now because i plan on adding to my cycle but MUST be sure its the right thing to to before i do it. if i dont know and dont infom myself i would consider that abuse???? make sense???