posted Mon, 03/31/2014 - 21:13
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+ 3 lab work the day before last pin .
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Was on a 20 week cycle .currently of the lab test was
300mg test e ×2 week
200mg tren e x2 week
50mg anavar ed .tell me what you guys think and if anyone can see why my liver is high ..
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QtripsMy liver values are high like yours. I was on anavar too. Anavar will elevate them for sure.
hunteron20sDid you post your bloods ?
Looks like that Quest test read estradiol correctly while on Tren. Which test did you order?
hunteron20sThis was a hormonal for women panel I got what you suggested
D2K3I think your test levels are a little low. Did you change brands of test?
Who is this guy?
His test levels are fine. He took this test before his last pin. Read this go to table 2
http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.figures-only
The study you posted clearly states nadir serum levels (at their lowest) 7 days post injection yields results 2400-2500. It also states that serum levels would be higher if bloods were taken earlier in the week.
He claims to pinning twice a week and didn't even hit those numbers while using an AI which will further increase serum testosterone. The product is under dosed without a doubt.
Although an AI will raise test levels while natural it will not raise test levels while on exogenous testosterone. How can it your shut down and there is no LH signal to produce testosterone. If an AI increased testosterone during a cycle we would never have to PCT. Just take an AI and reboot. LOL But of course that's not the case.
Let me ask you something how long does that 3000+ level last after you inject? A day,2days,3 days,4days? Better yet when does it happen? You ever wonder why all medical studies measure on day 7? What is the effect of a 3000+ levels verses his 2300 level? Is he going to gain less. Is it 10lbs,5lbs,1lb of muscle? If I take 2 guys and they eat and train the same is the guy with the 3000+ level going to get bigger verses the guy at 2300 level?
More test= more muscle
Less test = less muscle
It's dose dependent.
A 600 mg inject without the use if of anything else that boosts testosterone such as an ai, will yield serum testosterone levels above 3000 for approximately 6 days.
More test= more muscle
Less test = less muscle
It's dose dependent.
A 600 mg inject without the use if of anything else that boosts testosterone such as an ai, will yield serum testosterone levels above 3000 for approximately 6 days.
hunteron20sSo to see what the fix is .the test I was taking was a different source for the last month .now do you think that test was dosed low or my body doesnt get the high levels unless I take more .
Most likely dosed low unless you react strangely to test. It's probably dosed around 70% of pharm grade, so it's not that bad.
hunteron20sWell I still have that test it was a custom blend I will have it tested before I use in next run ..
When were bloods pulled? Final pin?
hunteron20sWed 1st thing fasting last pin was fri
hunteron20sThank you again mega I have a question for my pct protocol I will send in a pm
I'll send you something tonight
hunteron20sYep I sure did .I was running hulk then went to the blend for a month
Your liver levels are high due to hard training at the gym. Plus they're not too high...100+ would be worrisome just take previous advice and get on liv52. Should be fine though. +1 for getting bloods I actually just had mine pulled today.
hunteron20sI do put in work in the gym ..thanks for the words of enlightenment to see why it got high ..
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/elevated-ast-or-alt-wha....
AnonWhose gear were you running
hunteron20sThe test tren blend is from black label labs and the var is hulks .
AnonWhat did you think of hulks var? That was the first Var I used and I thought it was good but after running a couple other labs I feel hulks capsules were very under dosed. I could easily run 100 mgs a day of hulks Var a day with no side effects that you would normally get with good Var such as heart burn lower back pumps and of course increased strength
hunteron20sOhh I took those becuase I had them lol I started with black label anavar .hulks gear is ok but not my 1st xhoice due to never any stock for 1
BillLumberghtest looks low for 19.5 weeks in on 600mg ew?
hunteron20sHow high should it be ? It looks about right for me
BillLumberghat the very least 3000. but at that many weeks & dosage you should have a more significant build up
AnonThose liver levels are definitely high. Did you run any liver supps
hunteron20sNo and that is a my bad but I hope those go down since im on off time now
AnonGo ahead and start taking Tudca liv 52 and NAC. I'd hop on all that to try and help those levels come down. +1 for bloods
hunteron20sThere is liv 52 with my nolva and proviron I take ..gotta get some others .thanks for the advise bro
noob941+1 FOR BLOODS
hunteron20sThanks I was worried it wasnt gonna be this good .I was wrong ..