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Estrogen HELP!

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Bottom line of my question is how do I reduce total estrogen serum (175 pg/ml)? while my estradiol is 19 pg/ml
My assumption is that my total estrogen didn't go down after my first cycle
Background:
On 6th week of second cycle:
375 test C (first 5 weeks were 3x injection of 125mg MWF and from week 6 to every day injections)
300 Primo
first 5 weeks .5 arimidex EOD injection day (dumbass mistake of mine)

First cycle
16 week
250 test C first 4 weeks then titrated up to 550 and backed down to 400 due to nipples getting sensitive. (25 mg aromasin on injection days)
300 NPP from week 4
20mg anavar for maybe 3-4 weeks on training days (just wanted to try out)
12.5mg dbol week 15 bumped up to 25mg and nipples were getting crazy and stopped the cycle at week 16 and went into 10 week cruise on 150 test C
my estrogen at week 15 of first cycle was at 97 pg/ml which then I started raloxifene on cruise but only masked the gyno and would come back the next day
checked estrogen on Mondays of this week and last week. Last week was at 181 pg/ml and this Monday at 175 pg/ml. I also took 20mg Nolva and 60mg Raloxifene once I received the first result on Thursday. so 4 days of Ralox and Nolva and a 1mg arimidex, we're at 175. (I just got the result today after 5 days).
I did realize in first cycle that I convert like a MF.
Now How do I bring the total Estrogen serum down?
(all the ralox I took to reverse gyno couldn't do shit against this mountain of estrogen lol)

Jockstrap's picture

Estradiol is 19......so how is your joints? Dry, sore, chapped lips?

greensyndicate's picture

Surprisingly, no joint pain that I've noticed, not dry (neither skin or conditioning), sore I'd say only if I go stupid at the gym. However, the mental sides like feeling down and depression and anxiety has been through the roof. The other day I had a whole breakdown and I hadn't broken down since 2019!

Jeepman78's picture

I find letrozole is powerful at bringing estrogen down. They usually come in 2.5mg tabs which i think is alot, I will break them in half to take EOD with high test and D-bol cycles.

greensyndicate's picture

Unfortunately don't have it currently on hand. Going with .5 arimidex with every daily 50mg test injections for a few days until I recheck for total estrogen serum again.

winmag4582001's picture

Make sure your AI is legit. Have a few sources on hand.
Nolva and Caber do well for gyno.
Aromisin and Arimidex do well for estrogen.
Everybody’s body is different. When I want to bulk I run my estrogen at 25ppdl for every 1000 I’m at on test. Example: 4000 test levels, 100 estrogen. 2000 test, 50 estrogen. For me that keeps the gains solid without negative effects. IMO, crashing estrogen is worse than high, but if you’re prone to gyno you have to manage it closely.

greensyndicate's picture

Going to start half arimidex everyday with injections and 60mg raloxifene as I read in another post here that said arimidex and nova together will make arimidex 40% less efficient (not sure true or not but will go with ralox since I have it on hand). Going to recheck the total estrogen serum after a week or maybe sooner depending on how I feel.
Arimidex is Ultima and so far with low and inconsistent amount I've taken seems to work fine.

23Sparta's picture

This is why your first cycle should be testosterone ONLY.

greensyndicate's picture

Very true. Had bad influence around and was in the wrong place, wrong time and got my first jab lol.
Worst mistake I'd say I made was taking advice from the guy who was a "coach" and went along with his advice of Dbol. Trash compound imo.

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