IF I SAW YOU IN HEAVEN.....
When I was a kid of around 7 or so, my grandfather passed away. They told me he went to heaven and that heaven was a wonderful place and that only good people get to go there----that means no cussing and no fighting.
Anyway, I couldn't understand why my grandmother was so unhappy. I mean, she should have been overjoyed that my grandfather was able this escape this shit-hole planet----that he wasn't cursed to live another 20 years, dying a slow painful death. Instead, he left my grandmother a widow-----and apparently a very lonely and/or horny one. Because it wasn't long before she was married again---after 45 years of bliss with my grandfather, she was already back in the sack (OMG----Uggghh) with fresh produce.
So you can imagine my confusion----what the hell is going to happen when Grandpa meets up with -------. Are they gonna throw down? "IS WAYNE BRADY GONNA HAVE TO CHOKE A BITCH"? I mean, just how is she going to explain herself.....and, who is she going to ride tonight? And don't tell me there's no sex in Heaven, because if that's the case, then they need to rename that place "HELL-NO". That's not a place I wanna be.
And what about their bodies----does grandpa get a new 20-year old body, complete with 20" guns? And what if he liked Grandma's body better with stretch marks.....does that mean he's screwed (figuratively) if God decides we're all going be "perfect"?
Now let's put this concept----this idea of seeing people in Heaven, in the context of abortion---What happens if you've been party to an abortion (girl OR guy). What if you get to heaven and it's waiting up there to see you??? And worse, what if it's PISSED OFF and looks like Chucky in a diaper?
So I think I'll take my chances with Hell. Heaven just seems like there could be a lot of drama there.
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The Universe is more complex than we understand. As for the present moment, we make our hell or heaven. Nearour attitude us we see both happy and sad people. It is not what happend that counts, but our attitude towards this.
LionKingnice
Bible, Coran, Old testament, all the same fucking shit, all non-sens fucking retarded crap, it's time people move on !
LOL now this is funny even from a christian's perspective! the bible defines heaven as being in the presence of God.... well the bible makes it sound cool at least! haha.
lmfao TRUTH
AnonI like your sarcasm here, but you arent supposed to apply logic to the bible or any of the fairy tales they tell in church. Logic and bible dont mix dude !
I am one that has actually read the bible(christian one) I have studied religion from every aspect to the tree people... Seriously there is no god. People want to believe in something. Read the bible bro streets paved in gold, I am the best lookn prick in this world
What are your religious beliefs Goth?
At the risk of offending people, I happen to be as atheist as it is possible to be.
The only talking snake I've ever seen was my ex wife----and she THREW an apple at me.
If God exists, then HE needs to show me.....I want to hear it from him....not some con artist asking for cash on T.V.
However, religion in some cases may serve to comfort people and I have no problem with that. And yes, I celebrate Christmas---my favorite time of the year. But I celebrate it because it's fun. I also celebrate Halloween, but that doesn't mean I believe witches fly around on brooms.
tread-mYou don't believe in witches? Fing freak!
AnonAn argument has been made that Athiests have higher morrality and those of faith.
The argument is an athiest does what is right because he knows it is the right thing to do, a man of faith does it to be rewarded or avoid punishment by his god.
To each their own I say, but all to often it seems theres too much recruitment going on to leave each to their own.
Dude this is so true. I mean technically you can't define a whole groups morals by their "label," but I get what your saying. I've taken one too mamy psychology classes where people always mention that people get their morals from religion and with out it you can't possibly have morals. I've also heard that Athiests always have the agenda to convert people, which is impossible technically. I always feel I have to say something in these moments. I kinda believe the first rule of religion should be the same as the first rule of fight club. Anyways, I'll end this rant on that note.
I believe im more moral than the christians i meet.... and i live in the bible belt.
Supernova283Who cares as long as they're doing the right thing. If some people are motivated by fear or reward and it gets them to be good I'm all for it.
Personally atheist as well, but as long as they aren't hurting anyone I'm okay with people of faith.
Well in the Middle East, they certainly keep their people in line by using religion. And THAT'S the problem with religion----ANY religion. When religion goes public, then it gives respect to beliefs that are not rational. Christianity is just as much to blame for 9/11 as Islam because it sends the message that primitive, irrational, superstitious beliefs are to be respected. Then we end up with Holy wars like we have now where everyone is saying...."My God is better than your God"......"My god says if you don't believe in him, then I am supposed to kill you". And YES, the Catholics and Christians throughout history have killed far more people than Muslims. The witch hunts....the Inquisition.... went on for hundreds of years, killing millions upon millions.
AnonIm sorry, I dislike Christianity immensely but even I can not say it had anything to do with 9/11. I dont believe for one second that the christianity of the US or the desire to eat big macs and watch porn had anything to do with 9/11.
There may certainly be a factor regarding offense felt within radical muslim sects, but that has more to do with our foriegn policy and military bases on what they think is "holy land".
You dont actually think for one second if we pulled every military base and foriegn embassy out of the middle east that we would in any way be in the cross hairs of these whack jobs do you ?
The best thin we could do for the safety of this country is get everyone the fuck out of the middle east, kiss Israel and wave goodbye, and put the Saudis on our "do not call list"
I think you are misunderstanding me.
The point I am trying to make is that by giving respect to belief in a God---ANY God, we then tell the wackos that belief in fairly tales actually has merit. So in that respect, ALL religion is complicit in the pickle we find ourselves in now. Fanatical Christians are no different from fanatical Muslims in their stern belief that THEY...and THEY ALONE have the right God. I wasn't implying Christians were involved in the actual attack.
Anonah I get you ,and yes I agree with that. What are the words of that song ? Right on man, How in the hell do they not see the flaw in everyone thinking their god is right therefore someone elses must be wrong ?
Ditto. Me exactly!
Strictly from a biblical stand point... Not religious one Jesus Christ spoke about the condition of the dead. He did so with regard to Lazarus, a man whom he knew well and who had died. Jesus told his disciples: “Lazarus our friend has gone to rest. The disciples thought that Jesus meant that Lazarus was resting in sleep, recovering from an illness. They were wrong. Jesus explained: “Lazarus has died.” (John 11:11-14) Jesus compared death to rest and sleep. Lazarus was neither in heaven nor in a burning hell. He was not meeting angels or ancestors. Lazarus was not being reborn as another human. He was at rest in death, as though in a deep sleep without dreams. Other scriptures also compare death to sleep. For example, when the disciple Stephen was stoned to death, the Bible says that he “fell asleep.” (Acts 7:60) Similarly, the apostle Paul wrote about some in his day who had “fallen asleep” in death.—1 Corinthians 15:6.
Ecclesiastes 9:5
5 For the living are conscious that they will die but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten
Nice post bro
LMFAO!!.. Nooka, you crazy! I like u but u crazy
Haha...
" ....what if you go up to heaven AND IT's waiting up there to see you?"... Funny way of putting it!
I guess I'd flush it down the toilet AGAIN...the same way I got rid of it in the first place! LOL!!!
If ya see Devil in Mrs Jones 2.....hello is fun with sex all day but no orgasms allowed :o
tread-mI think the body is sin and is gone, all beautiful souls and much deeper than I can explain but I will tell you this, THERE BETTER GOT DAMN WELL BE SOME PROP THERE OR ALL "HELL" BOUT TO BREAK LOSE WHEN THIS NOOKA COMEROLLIN UP THROUGH THE PEARLY GURL! YES, SOUL PROP....WHAT! TRIPLE SNAP THANG I'M UP OUTTA HURRR.
LoL LMaO!!!!!!
I am also going to Hell for sure! Hell, I've got a Satanic star tattooed accross my chest, if you don't go to Hell for that, what the Hell DO you go to Hell for?
Most gang bangers I know have the virgin Mary tatood on them,but somehow I dont think that they will wind up in heaven for that and that alone.
lol that's not my only sin, believe me bro
I like the idea of reincarnation, as long as I can keep what I learned with me. I would hate to start from scratch again, remake all the same stupid mistakes. Of course if we go to heaven instead, there will probably be some pretty big motherfuckers up there. Afterall they got all eternity to work out.